Ok ive done much researching on this, and this is my following data. the EstateOwnerMessageHandler is receiving methods, 2 of them, The 2 that are checked are if (method == "estateupdateinfo") and if (method == "getinfo") but the 2 methods send back from sl are if (method == "estateupdateinfo") and if (method == "setaccess") after changing the code the function ran threw the if statements fine. now the second part to this is EstateAccessReplyDelta accessType = (EstateAccessReplyDelta)Helpers.BytesToUInt(message.ParamList[1].Parameter); no matter what i do with it, accessType is always returning 0 meaning the following cases are never triggerd on a getinfo request case EstateAccessReplyDelta.EstateManagers: case EstateAccessReplyDelta.EstateBans: case EstateAccessReplyDelta.AllowedUsers: case EstateAccessReplyDelta.AllowedGroups: wich alsos means theys event handlers are never triggerd void Estate_OnGetEstateManagers(uint estateID, int count, List<UUID> managers) void Estate_OnGetEstateBans(uint estateID, int count, List<UUID> banned)